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Q: What part does music play in society?

It has been said that music is a reflection of the heart and soul of man. Musicians reflect what they see, think and feel, passing these feelings on to the listener who identifies with the musician's heart. Lyrics depict what is real or fantasy and what's true or make-believe. It becomes a composition of thought, feelings and move-ments -- a physical expression of the heart. We see music combined with drugs and dance, replacing God's powerful presence and joyful expression of praise. What God intended to be an expression of thanksgiving, praise and worship becomes a symphony to the world, the flesh and the devil.

Q: Are you saying that God and Satan both have music?

Yes, and various degrees in between. We must look at the spirit behind the music, good or bad, holy or demonic, and honestly evaluate how it influences our lives. We become what we listen to!

We must ask ourselves, "Who is in control?" We can either let God's truth and promises control our lives, or self-will, circumstances, people and events. The forces of darkness would have us do the latter.

We were created to have a relationship with God and to worship Him just as the angels do. But Lucifer, the once-anointed cherub now called Satan, brought one-third of the angels with him to Earth, influencing mankind.

Satan's jealousy rages because he knows we were created in God's image of glory and honor, and he was not. He knows we were created to worship God alone. He lures and tempts us in every conceivable way to worship him. His purpose is to steal, kill and destroy our lives with his music, dance and self-gratifications.

The assignment of those fallen angels, or demons, is to persuade us to worship Satan and rebel against God, our parents and society. One of their prime tools for this is sensuous music that appeals to our fleshly instincts.

I'd suggest that everyone check out the book of Psalms in the Holy Bible. God's music is an expression of our total surrender to Him, an expression of worship and of His great worth. It's an expression of our love for God, who sent Jesus Christ to cleanse us from wickedness and place us in right standing with Himself.

Q: How did the music of the '60s reflect what was going on then?

Musicians were like prophets or sorcerers calling on the spirits for answers. I was looking for direction, personal identity and answers. So, I'd listen to the Stones, the Doors, Cream, Country Joe, Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Dylan, Richie Havens, the Beatles and others. It seemed like they knew what was going on in a crazy, drug-induced world. The Psalmist said, "They that make idols are like unto them, so is every one that trusts in them" (Psalm 115:8).


My hip friends were all too eager to interpret the music. I thought the musicians could identify with my situation. The Stones sang about not getting any satisfaction and the way to find it was by having a banquet with Lucifer. I certainly had no satisfaction and if it meant worshipping Satan to get it, I was willing. I was certainly desperate and looking for answers in all the wrong places, but in reality I was calling on evil spirits for help and power, instead of God.

Each group seemed to offer some sort of hope, and we'd hang onto every word, listening to everyone but our parents. As I reflect back, I see there was no life in the music. The country was in a bad state with the Vietnam War, and death was in the air, even on the airwaves. When Jim Morrison, Jimmy Hendrix and Janis Joplin died, it was like God died; we felt a loss of hope, and it seemed we were a little closer to the eve of destruction. These guys were our idols. We worshipped them.

I was blinded to the fact that Hendrix really was into voodoo, even though I sang his song "Voodoo Child" right along with him. He said, "Music is a spiritual thing of its own. You can hypnotize with music, and when you get people at their weakest point, you can preach into the subconscious what you want to say."

Q: Did the music influence you in a negative way?

Well, it certainly didn't influence me in a positive way. These musicians were, like me, looking for answers in drugs, rebelling against parents and society and living in sexual immorality -- each one related to the other. They sang about love, peace and freedom; all the things I was lacking. I was caught up in rebellion, searching in all directions, but in unbelief toward God; especially my parents' God. I believe music was one of the influences that helped me dishonor my father and mother.

I was under the influence of the same drugs that influ-enced the musicians. This made it easier to identify with them, and it made what they were singing about more believable; the music had an even greater influence over my mind and took me into what seemed to be a magical world. This world was a very simple, but complicated, lazy, do-nothing world of emptiness, where demons were free to run through my mind. I mention demons a lot because it is so important that we understand their reality. They are Satan's helpers from the unseen spiritual realm of darkness.

Q: How do you see today's children being influenced by music?

Simply the appearance, the dress and rebellious actions of children who are into rock music tells us they are being influenced by and have given ground to the enemy of their soul. It hurts to hear the rebellious nature of some of today's music blaspheme Jesus Christ.

This is the same prideful rebellion that Lucifer exhibited in heaven. The Scripture says, "…rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..." Witchcraft involves exposing oneself to the realm and power of Satan's control.

It's easy to get hooked and fall prey to sensuous thoughts, which lead to rebellion against parents, and to a rebellious appearance. Children imitate the "look" of rock bands -- fishnet stockings on arms, white face paint, black lipstick, spiked jackets, and pentagram jewelry. They have been known to "cast spells" over other students. Is there any doubt who they are worshipping? Marilyn Manson, a self-proclaimed antichrist, is trying to take the place of Christ in their lives while burning crosses on stage.

Satan is out to capture the minds of our youth. Kip Kinkel, the 15-year-old student from Springfield, Oregon who killed his parents and two students and wounded twenty-four, was influenced by music. He started dressing in black and stopped talking to people. He took on the pose of a "Gothic," a youth persona with music and style, gloomy and dark. Kip ended up with a sentence of 112 years in prison. The "Trench Coat Mafia" killers at Columbine were also influenced by the violent lyrics in music. So very sad.

Q: Are you comparing some of today's music to witchcraft?

Indeed I am! Some music can bring a person into the realm and under the power of Satan's control; it encourages drug use, rebellion and immorality. The rock beat showed up in the southern United States in the '50s with rock ¢n¢ roll. Many believe this beat originates from witch doctors who worship and call up evil spirits with their music, causing demons to enter into people. As a result, we see the same dance, dress and symbols in village-worship rituals exhibited by some groupies. Most people don't realize they're into voodoo.

The rebellious nature of witchcraft is not only propa-gated through music. For instance, research reveals that the Harry Potter series of sorcery books, movies and other paraphernalia invading our land, is not just fantasy or a world of make believe. The subtle and overt messages of the occult are woven within each adventure of a young wizard, who lies, steals and takes revenge.

The author of the Potter material writes resulting from years of research of occult history and practices. She claims her world of wizardry is a "world of imagination" and a "moral world." These practices are affecting the hearts of millions of children, who are being drawn toward Potter-mania.

The prophet Isaiah found the children of Israel scoffing at God, saying, "…let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it! [God said,] "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:19b, 20).

Regardless of which avenue witchcraft slithers in, remember, our true enemies are the spiritual forces of darkness. "For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against the evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness who rule this world, and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms" (Ephesians 6:12 NLT).

Q: What do you suggest as a positive influence on our children today?

Parents are to be the primary influence, but there's a real war being waged against the family. One of Satan's weapons of opposition is the rebellious nature of music. Musicians can sow rebellion and strife between parents and their children, so the parents are no longer an effective influence.

Many parents are at a loss for answers as they see their children becoming involved in immoral habits and illegal activities. At the same time, the children are plagued with increasing violent and unclean thoughts.

Parents and children alike must admit they're powerless in themselves. They must admit that their family has become unmanageable, and that God can restore sanity to their lives. They must make a decision to turn their family over to the care of God. The Lord must be the positive influence for our children. He has won the war against the devil, and He gave us victory at the cross, but we must trust Him. His love at Calvary never fails to be effective in our lives.

Q: If music were about religion, God and nothing else, would the youth listen to it?

Whether the youth listen to Christian music or not, we need to encourage them by example, praising and worshipping God. This is what will bring true love, peace and joy to their lives and families. On the contrary, to some, music does exactly the opposite. The beat appeals to the body and ties young people to the rock culture and its way of life.

Only the Lord can open the eyes of the youth to the destructive, evil nature of certain music. Christian music is certainly a positive influence on our youth, and they do listen to it. Some of it is a little too rock-like for me, and except for the lyrics I can't hear any difference between it and rock ¢n¢ roll. I don't believe Christian musicians have to copy secular music's beat to attract listeners. Most contemporary Christian music is uplift-ing, and the musicians are good role models for our youth.

Q: Does music stimulate the appetite for drug use?

It certainly does. Drugs, rebellion, immorality and rock music all fit into the same package. I can tell you from experience, each is culturally related to the other. I was addicted to rock music just as I was addicted to drugs. The more drugs and music I took in, the more drugs and music I needed. I became hooked, out of control and was in total rebellion against God and my parents.

I recently read an article where the American Medical Association said that heavy metal music may be associated with drug use, premarital sex and satanic rites. They also reported that the average teenager listens to over 10,000 hours of rock music between the 7th and 12th grades. It's clear who is influencing our children.

Q: If there was no such thing as music would this be a better world?

No, God created music. His music assures us of His love for us, and is a form of worship to Him. On the other hand, there are temptations in this life, and things we worship more than God. Some of these include drugs, sex and rock 'n' roll. God's greatest joy comes from His seeing our thanksgiving, praise and worship expressed in love to Him. He alone is worthy; for He delivered us out of darkness and into His marvelous light through Jesus Christ. The Psalms tell us that God dwells in the praises of His people. As we praise Him, He fills us with His presence. Worship to our God is what makes this a better world. He is the Rock that doesn't roll.

I'm not saying that all non-Christian music is demonic. There's a lot of music in this world that is not Christian and not destructive. We're not talking about getting rid of all music that isn't Christian-based. If you can sense the music's destructive nature, it's evil. Some music may not take you anywhere but to the same old, lonely, low-level plane you're living in. But good music will encourage you, lift you up and give you hope.

Q: Do you think "rating" music to keep the youth from its influence is a good idea?

Definitely! Music should be rated, but by whom? As Christians, we are to live close to God so that we can help our children judge between good and evil. We should be able to determine what draws us closer to God and one another, and what hinders our deepest need -- meaningful relationships.

Maybe non-Christians need the government to help rate their morals, sort of like the law in the Old Testament, showing them their sinfulness and their need for God. But it's the heart of man that needs to change. We must take charge of our own lives, and allow God's standards to rule. Righteous cannot be legislated. It comes from a heart made righteous through making Jesus LORD.

Q: Marilyn Manson was raised in a Christian home. What happened to him?

That's what I hear, but I really don't know how he was raised. Regardless, he rebelled against his parents, wanting attention, and saw a way to get it while making money at the same time. It's a shame he has to drag so many into rebellion with him. For those who don't know, Marilyn Manson took his band's name from Marilyn Monroe's first name and Charles Manson's last.

As parents, we can't just blame a musician like Marilyn Manson; we have the obligation to be there for our chil-dren. We need to look for warning signs before our children become violent. If we don't raise them, someone will be there to raise them for us. That someone most likely will not have their welfare in mind, but will offer them acceptance and every temptation for their harm and destruction.

Maybe Marilyn Manson didn't have problems at home or have to raise himself, like lots of children do. Still, personal conflicts came along that he didn't know how to deal with, and now we see his outrageousness.

Our children need someone with whom to confide in and to discuss positive alternatives. They must be nurtured and have early prevention when necessary. They must not only be taught and modeled right values, but made to feel loved through a sense of security and acceptance.

Q: What part did Charles Manson's music play in the family?

The purpose of Manson's music was to manipulate or indoctrinate his listeners to accept his philosophies or beliefs. His music was a very real, demonic influence on the family members and still is today to those who choose to listen to it.

I've identified him previously as a sorcerer, a charismatic leader who used magic. He played the mediator between the family and the evil world, out to charm or cast a spell with chants through music. This was one key to his manipulation; another was the use of drugs. We'd already given ourselves to the spirit of rebellion prior to joining him, so we were ripe for his philosophy.

We saw his magic as love, but in reality he taught rebellion and the way of death. He'd make up new songs with lyrics such as, "…close the bathroom door stupid," mocking our parents. Although my parents never said that, I heard their voice in other ways and was reminded of my anger toward them, confirming my need and love for Charlie. As we felt more and more rejected by our parents, he became our answer for unconditional love and acceptance. His voice became greater than that of our parents, and our personal consciences. It was a subtle, consuming confusion. We slowly gave the demons authority over our beliefs so they could control and destroy us.

Let me try to explain how his music was used as a chant to charm us. In a ritualistic Manson worship ceremony, our whole bodies vibrated with his sound. We'd sit in a circle, surrounded by his offbeat guitar strum, on drugs, swaying and sometimes even dancing to his tune -- being enticed into his web. His musical chants were repetitive lyrics and pitches that produced a hypnotic effect or a trance-like state. His words filled the air -- "Cease to exist, come say you love me…kill your ego, die" -- so once you ceased to be, you could be free to totally love, totally come together, and totally give yourself over to his demonic thoughts. Unbeknownst to us, a spell was cast and the demons were summoned and free to emotionally consume us.

Q: Did his music suggest violence against society?

I believe his music reflects his pain and anger toward the lack of a parental relationship and therefore, hatred toward society. The many years he spent in prison gave him plenty of time to develop this hatred and hostility, blaming everyone else but himself.

The spontaneous songs he sang in the confines of the family spewed forth this hatred, different from what he later released for public consumption. He considered society as pigs and felt they were going to get what they had coming. We not only took on his beliefs, but also his anger. Helter Skelter became the theme of every song he wrote; a violent revolution, a bloody conflict between whites and blacks.

Q: If music were less violent would people be less violent?

It's pretty common knowledge that people who look and listen to violence will become violent themselves. Children who are not emotionally mature and have not developed a sound conscience are especially vulnerable.

Heavy metal groups perform while their listeners ritualistically stomp in a circle, maiming and even killing one another. Oui is white-supremacy music, which encourages its listeners toward violence. Gangster-rap musicians say they're only singing about their neighborhoods, but in reality they're propagating a violent gangster-lifestyle message to youngsters who go out and do what they sing about.

This is all part of the violent spell that's being cast upon society by musicians, who take no responsibility for their actions. But as parents, we are responsible to keep this music from the ears of our children so its venom will not affect them. There is a battle going on against the family, the very foundation of society. This is why we must call on God's strength and wisdom to be nurturing parents.

Q: You've talked about the Beatles' music being part of Manson's false beliefs. Can you explain?

That's right! Manson went so far as to tell the prosecuting attorney that the Beatles' music and LSD were responsible for the Tate-LaBianca murders. He takes no responsibility for his delusional thinking or false beliefs. I gave myself to his unsound reasoning and was deceived. The Beatles' music and drugs cannot be blamed.

Manson was obsessed with the Beatles. In a bizarre and unreal fashion, he hinged his philosophy on every word they sang. "Helter Skelter" became his black and white race war. But in reality, it was an amusement park ride in England. "Sexy Sadie" fit one of the girls in the family, Susan Atkins, to a T. Charlie thought the lyrics of the song "Honey Pie" meant the Beatles were calling him to England to make an album. The song "Piggies" described the establishment who needed a "…damn good wacking." The lyrics of "Revolution 1" told Charlie that it was time for Armageddon. To him, the Beatles were the "four angels" of Revelation 9 from the Bible, and they were saying, "Helter Skelter is coming down fast," and he was to instigate it.

The drugs, and the hallucinations they created, made his false interpretations seem real. That's the scary part. It goes to show you that people will easily believe a lie if their lives are not founded upon a sound belief system.

Q: Was the Beatles' music violent?

Manson perceived their music as calling for violence, but he was really stretching it. For instance, he believed that he was the 5th angel of Revelation 9 and that the Beatles' song, "Revolution 9," was calling the black race to rise up and cause Helter Skelter, a bloody race war. This song had the sound of machine gun fire and warfare, as well as screams, crying babies, BBC announcers and according to Manson, secret messages.

He told us that the repetition of the chant "number nine, number nine" in the song, referred to Revelation 9 of the Bible and that he had the key to the Bottomless Pit, even maps. The locusts represented the Beatles, "…their faces like men…hair like women," and "breastplates of iron" were their electric guitars. To Manson, the horsemen of Chapter 9 represented motorcycle and dune-buggy gangs, an army of chariots spreading destruction upon all who didn't have the "seal of God." It all seemed to fit; the end of the world was near, but as part of the chosen race, the family would escape to the safety of the Pit. The way that he figured it, the blacks and the motorcycle gangs would work together to bring down Helter Skelter. This shows the bizarre twist to his madness.

Q: Are you saying that what's being perceived by the listeners in the music lyrics determines its influence?

Yes, perception is everything, especially for children who haven't formed sound belief and value systems, nor developed a strong conscience. We have the freedom to choose our belief system, but when those beliefs harm other people, those beliefs are wrong. When people believe in a delusion like Manson's, with deadly results, it is wrong. People can believe in spaceships, but when those beliefs cause thirty-nine people to commit suicide, it is wrong. There are convictions such as faith, family and freedom that we should be willing to die for, but not for a devilish lie.

Music is definitely having an influence. We can see it in the youth's dress, facial appearance, throwaway lives and immoral lifestyles. The sad part is that today our children don't have to misinterpret music for it to be harmful. The lyrics drip with violence and witchcraft. For instance, "I Love the Dead," "Dead Meat," "Decapitate," "Voodoo," "Die Young," and "Children of the Grave" are all songs with deadly, ghoulish, gory lyrics, and deadly results.

There are still cults today that use heavy-metal rock music to persuade and influence their followers. The leader uses the music to bring the followers into oneness of mind and purpose. If the leaders' intentions are violent and destructive, they will be passed on to those who choose to follow.

Q: Isn't it a person's background and psychological makeup that determines how they will perceive and react to the music?

I believe a person must be grounded spiritually. That is, grounded Biblically, with a sound identity in the cross of Jesus Christ. Without spiritual identity, a person can be easily deceived, as Manson's followers were with his weird philosophy. Also, I think perception has a great deal to do with parental influence and the environment in which children are raised. My turning to sin by disobeying my parents caused my rebellious heart to embrace many wrong thoughts, attitudes, ideas and beliefs.

I had a distorted worldview made up of wrong percep-tions concerning life. Manson filled a need for every family member depending on the individual's makeup. Drugs were a catalyst to make us more suggestible and agreeable. We were all isolated together on a "magical mystery tour," hungry for unconditional love and overcoming our fears. Yet we were paranoid, rebellious and angry. Manson's demonic and repetitive teachings, immoral philosophy, superior awareness and charis-matic leadership all combined for our deception. So I'm not saying it was only the music, but music did play a major part in the deadly philosophy.

Q: If music is so influential, is there any such thing as safe music?

Yes, there is safe music, but let me be quite clear. Some music can be a dangerous and harmful influence. The youth today are at risk. As parents, we are responsible for teaching our children to guard their lives from the threat of certain kinds of music.

The musicians are going to produce music that brings the listener into personal intimacy with them. I do believe there are warning signs to guard against. These include vulgar, rebellious lyrics, and heavy, sensuous breathing and sighing into the microphone. Also avoid music that stimulates erotic movements and high volume levels that block out personal conscience. Stay away from satanic symbols, music that glorifies self, and generally, music that has a rebellious, driving beat.

Let's face it, "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he" (Proverbs 23:7). This tells me that if we allow our children to listen to it, they will become like it. I know my old life was influenced by it greatly. There's a new song in the air for me -- really good vibrations.

The Lord has given us a way to come into His safety. For this reason, we have been given music that is distinctively different from worldly music. This music glorifies God by being clean and pure, thus building up our lives. How much safer could we be -- praising and worshipping God for our redemption and deliverance?

Q: What kind of music do you listen to today?

I listen to a lot of Christian radio, mostly praise-and-worship and contemporary Christian music, in that order. I live to stay in the presence of God, and in His presence is fullness of joy. This joy is my strength to live and overcome the pressures of life. I can't live success-fully without worshipping God moment by moment.

The bottom line -- we're not to give place to the devil. He's our enemy and he's on the loose; out to kill, steal and destroy our lives. We've been given power over him in Christ. At the cross, Jesus Christ forgave our sins, defeated the works of the devil and conquered death. Through our faith in His victory, we rule our lives in Christ. As we stay built up in the most holy faith, our desires change. This world's music has nothing to offer us any longer, because we are marching to a different drummer, playing a different tune. So, frankly, I stay in tune with God, and his music helps me to do so!

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